Zezo forum: How to retrieve a waypoint (TWA/HDG) that already passed...

How to retrieve a waypoint (TWA/HDG) that already passed...

Post by jokap | 2020-12-30 | 01:05:15

Dear all,

I don't know whether this is already well established knowledge and I am not sure if this works in every case but here is what I stumbled upon:

Picture the following scenario:
You just passed a carefully adjusted waypoint (TWA/HDG). However, you change your mind and adjust the course by hand. Then it strikes you that the last step was a big mistake and you want your carefully chosen waypoint back--here's what you do:

1. Open the waypoint menu.
2. Select the next waypoint tile which activates the course selection for that next step in time.
3. (Without any further clicking around) close the waypoint menu by clicking the x in its top right corner. You will be prompted whether you really want to dismiss without changes. Confirm this *by clicking the red tile with the x*!
4. Now reopen the waypoint menu--voil�, here it is again, your waypoint tile from the past.
5. Select it and simply move it to the future ("minute up" or "hour up", either will work). It's good to be used again.

In fact, I think this exact mechanism is responsible for at least a part of the cases when people experienced that their ship turned around by 180� when they (unwillingly and unknowingly) pursued the same scheme with the actual waypoint menu (not the TWA/HDG version but instead the coordinate version): They opened their waypoint menu just after having passed a waypoint without having programed any other waypoints and closed it the way I just explained which raises the passed waypoint from the dead...without being displayed in the chart!

Cheers,
jokap

15 Comments

Post by Ormetkruper | 2020-12-30 | 15:20:58

👍

Post by Ventura_317 | 2020-12-30 | 18:47:45

Very intrusting comment !
The typical case is when you need to turn sharp around a buoy with your master WP set as close as possible to the buoy centre and use a secondary WP less critical required temporary for a couple of minutes in order to escape the buoy !
I suffered that anomaly when manually changing my heading (not going any more to the second WP) and as explained my boat came back straight to the WP I had successfully and proudly passed !!!!

Thanks pointing out this bug !

Post by BooBill | 2020-12-30 | 22:26:08

Confirmed, it works. Just did it by accident. However, I'm putting this one in the bug category, rather than a feature.

Post by YourMomSA | 2020-12-30 | 22:59:36

Kinda like how if you double-click on the Reply button, you can post a reply twice. ;-)

Post by BooBill | 2020-12-30 | 22:26:08

Confirmed, it works. Just did it by accident. However, I'm putting this one in the bug category, rather than a feature.

Post by BooBill | 2020-12-30 | 23:55:58

Nope, that's definitely a feature ;)

Post by jokap | 2020-12-31 | 15:51:12

Thank you guys for your enthusiastic comments! :D

In fact, this almost feels like being a hacker--although most certainly I'm not^^ At least until now (;

As to the question of whether a bug or a feature, I would suggest making it publicly well known, at least among the more competitive sailors for whom this will be important to know...to the other ones, I guess this won't be as crucial.
And then, it can be regarded a feature, I'd say :D

Cheers,
jokap

Post by BooBill | 2020-12-30 | 23:55:58

Nope, that's definitely a feature ;)

Post by jokap | 2020-12-31 | 16:01:26

BTW: I also have a name for this bug: >>Flux Capacitor<<.
It can screw you if you are not aware of its ways...but it can also take you >>Back to the Future<<! :D
Alternative: >>Doc Brown<<^^

Post by jokap | 2020-12-31 | 16:42:11

Plus: I just realized how well this fits New Year's Eve :D

Happy New Year, everyone! And thank you for being such a great community! And last but not least: Thank you, zezo, Hardtack, toxcct, YourMomSA, BooBill and everyone else putting in the extra effort to create invaluable tools, to share their knowledge and to lift the VR racing to a whole new level! :D

Post by BooBill | 2020-12-31 | 18:16:12

To be clear, Zezo (Cvetan/BigBird), Hardtack and toxcct are responsible for building the tools. I've nothing to do with that, I'm just here for the comedic relief.

Post by YourMomSA | 2020-12-31 | 18:59:58

Agreed. I'm continuously impressed with their innovativeness, interest in adapting as needs change and ideas surface, and personal interest in resolving issues and/or explaining issues beyond their control ASAP. I try to chime in with helpful commentary, but I don't put my contribution anywhere close to on par with theirs.

Post by zezo | 2021-01-03 | 14:10:59

Your comments and observations can be more useful than the raw router output sometimes. And because user support is more than half of the work, every question answered by someone other than me saves me some time.

Post by jokap | 2021-01-01 | 00:47:36

True, and their contribution weighs most heavily! However, this forum would be a lot less populated without the knowledge shared by you guys!
So, thank you everyone!

And Happy New Year!